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Temat postu: Akt ślubu Kuciej Kowalczyk/Jakobiak 1865 Ploniawy OK
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Hi,
Would someone please translate this act? I believe it is for Stanislaw Kuciej, marrying Katarzyna Kowalczyk Jakobiak. I think his first wife may have been Anna Bednarczyk in Krasnosielc-Siel in 1835, but of course, there are no marriage books on Family Search for that year, so I'm working off other information in the record. Does the act mention her? There are many more names than normal.
#4
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=694403
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Temat postu: Akt ślubu Kuciej Kowalczyk/Jakobiak 1865 Ploniawy
Wysłany: 19-04-2018 - 22:15
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Hi Carolyn,
unfortunately there is nothing about Anna Bednarczyk. Stanisław Kuciej was a widower but there is no name of his first wife.
There is a translation:
Płoniawy, 22nd January 1865, 2 p.m.
witnesses: Andrzej Grącki, 47 and Grzegorz Siołkowski, 37, living in Łazy, both unrelated
groom: Stanisław Kuciej, widower, living in Grądy, 54, son of dead Baltazar Kuciej and Katarzyna nee Kurowska, parents from Węgrzynowo, born in Węgrzynowo
bride: Katarzyna Jakobiak, living in Łazy, 45, daughter of dead Roch Kowalczyk and Rozalia nee Krawczak, parents from Bagienice, born in Bagienice, widow - her husband Stanisław Jakobiak died on 4th December 1864
3 announcements: 8th, 15th, 22nd January in Krasnosielsc church and Płoniawy church
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Temat postu: Akt ślubu Kuciej Kowalczyk/Jakobiak 1865 Ploniawy
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Hello again Monika!
As always, thank you for your help. This Stanislaw Kuciej may be the same as another Stanislaw Kuciej in my tree. The other Stanislaw Kuciej was the son of Balcer and Katarzyna according to Geneteka. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Balcer a surname? I can not find a birth record or marriage from his first marriage to Anna Bednarczyk in 1935 to confirm his parents names. Do marriage records exist for Krasnosielc-Sielc in 1835?
Also, the Katarzyna Kowalczyk I have married to Stanislaw Jakobiak was also born in Bagienice to Roch Kowalczyk but her mother's name is listed as Elzbieta Stanczak. Their marriage was in 1844 so if I can find those records, I think I can explain it all. Do you know where they might exist?
Again, many thanks!
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Carolyn |
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Dear Carolyn,
The name Balcer is short for Baltazar. It can also be a surname.
The marriage acts probably exist in paper form, as there is the index from them in geneteka; you would have to have someone check for you in Archdiocese of Płock archive.
Stanisław Kuciej, aged 50, widower after Anna Bednarczyk, son of Balcer and Katarzyna married Anna Mikulakowa born Więcek in 1856 - Krasnosielc #9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=548021
So probably Katarzyna was his third (or more?) wife.
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Hi Nika (and anyone else who might help out),
I want to make sure I have this straight. I think it's the same Stanislaw Kuciej, and he married 3 times, twice to cousins in my family tree!! Would you mind translating the whole record, so I can make sure it's the same man?
Here is what I have so far:
1835 - Stanisław Kuciej, son of Balcer and Katarzyna (no maiden name) married to Anna Bednarczyk - no record, just Geneteka search
1856 - Stanisław Kuciej, 50, born about 1806, son of Balcer and Katarzyna, widow of Anna Bednarczyk, married Anna Więcek Mikulakowa in Krasnosielc https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=548021
1864 - death of Anna Wiecek, I think https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=548021
1865 - Stanisław Kuciej, 54, born about 1811 in Węgrzynowo, son of dead Baltazar Kuciej and Katarzyna nee Kurowska, married Katarzyna Jakobiak https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=694403
Does it make sense that this is the same Stanislaw Kuciej?? I'd appreciate any help!
Thank you so much,
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Dear Carolyn,
it seems to be the same person.
# 24 of 1864 is the death record of Anna z Więcków Kuciejowa, 4 March 1864. Anna was aged 40, daughter of deceased Jan and living Agnieszka, and left widowed husband Stanisław Kuciej. The death was registered by Franciszek Kuciej, 23, Anna's husband's son from previous marriage, and Józef Więcek, her brother aged 30.
#9 of 1856 is the marriage record of Anna z Więcków Mikulakowa and Stanisław Kuciej.
22.01/ 3.02.1856 in Krasnosielc a marriage took place in front of witnesses Mateusz Szewczak aged 40 and Jakub Bednarczyk aged 30, both farmers living in Grądy, between
Stanisław Kuciej, 50, widower after Anna born Bednarczyk, born in Węgrzynowo of deceased Balcer and Katarzyna Kuciej
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Anna born Więcek Mikulak, widow after Wincenty Mikulak deceased in Przytuły on 24.01/ 5.02.1854, born in Przejmy, parish Przasnysz, of Jan Więcek and Agnieszka born Po... , worker living in Grądy, aged 30.
There were 3 banns, no prenuptial agreement, act signed only by the priest.
It was quite difficult to read, I couldn't decipher Agnieszka's maiden name for sure.
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Nika,
Thank you so much. Those records helped a lot. I agree it looks like the same Stanislaw Kuciej. Interesting his third wife was Katarzyna Kowalczyk, the 3rd woman with that same name in my family tree. Confusing!!
Again, thank you I couldn't do any of this without the help of kind people like you,
Carolyn |
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