Serwis Polskiego Towarzystwa Genealogicznego

flag-pol flag-eng home login logout Forum Fotoalbum Geneszukacz Parafie Geneteka Metryki Deklaracja Legiony Straty
piątek, 19 kwietnia 2024

longpixel


Napisz nowy temat   Odpowiedz do tematu
Zobacz poprzedni temat Wersja gotowa do druku Zaloguj się, by sprawdzić wiadomości Zobacz następny temat
Autor Wiadomość
felipekosloskeOffline
Temat postu: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 24-03-2023 - 16:15


Dołączył: 15-03-2023
Posty: 3

Status: Offline
Hello everyone, I apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong place. Even though I'm using some translation tools, it's hard for me to navigate. My name is Felipe, and I'm from Brazil. I've been researching my family for the last 5 years, and in the last few weeks, I came across new information that would lead me to a narrow research. I found out that my mother's great-grandfather, Stanisław Kozłowski 1843/1844, and his wife Katarzyna Noga 1852, also known as Ксенія/XENIYA, arrived in Brazil on 20/01/1896, through the Genova port in Italy. Although documents in Brazil show that they came from Europe, some mention Poland and Ukraine. My mother always used to say that they came from Krakow, but the new information led us to Khyriv, which makes sense because Krakow is close to it, and Katarzyna Noga could be a typographical error, as some documents suggest.

However, there are still some questions that leave us wondering about our family. One document in Brazil states that two people in the family arrived with Austrian passports, but nobody in our family has those passports, and it doesn't say anything about the other family members. I have tried to contact many institutions over the past few years, but nobody has been able to help. So, my question is, does anyone here know how I can obtain some documents such as birth certificates, passports, baptisms, or anything that can assist me in my research? I will leave some links about what I have, and if anyone can help, I would be grateful.

Teodor Kozlowski 1872: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.ph ... =0&rpp2=50

Stanisław Kozłowski 1843/1852: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.ph ... =0&rpp2=50

I will help you rephrase that part:

In addition, I will provide the links to FamilySearch, in case anyone wants to take a look and gain a better understanding:

Stanisław Kozłowski: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/LV6N-1DD
Katarzyna Noga: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/LV6P-B3J
Theodoro Kozlowski from Khyriv: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/LV6F-636
Anna Queje: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/LRCG-3R1
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
choirek
Temat postu: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 24-03-2023 - 17:31
Zasłużony
Sympatyk


Dołączył: 02-03-2020
Posty: 1150

Would you be willing to share some more data? Kozłowski is one of the most common surnames in Poland. Katarzyna could also be Ksenia, but not necessarily. They sound similar but are not the same.
Also take a look at this:
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.ph ... =&to_date=
This, of course, could be 100% wrong, just to show you how difficult it can be to find the exact family.

_________________
Pozdrawiam, Irek
Moderator


Ostatnio zmieniony przez choirek dnia 25-03-2023 - 00:12, w całości zmieniany 1 raz
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
Officinalis_Paeonia
Temat postu: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 24-03-2023 - 18:29
Sympatyk


Dołączył: 26-03-2019
Posty: 799

The documents-scans attached on FS mention Austria and Ukraine, i.e. not Kraków.
The towns in Ukraine that are similar to Kraków are: Krakowiec, Ruda Krakowiecka and Krakiwszczyna.
Where did Chyrów/Khyriv come from?

_________________
Elża
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
felipekosloskeOffline
Temat postu: Re: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 25-03-2023 - 12:34


Dołączył: 15-03-2023
Posty: 3

Status: Offline
choirek napisał:
Would you be willing to share some more data? Kozłowski is one of the most common surnames in Poland. Katarzyna could also be Ksenia, but not necessarily. They sound similar but are not the same.
Also take a look at this:
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.ph ... =&to_date=
This, of course, could be 100% wrong, just to show you how difficult it can be to find the exact family.


Hi Irek,

Unfortunately, I don't have much data that could be useful for your search. Most of the documents I have are from Brazil and have a lot of gaps, which is why we have so many questions. However, I did notice on the website that Teodor and Stanislaw have a one-year difference according to FamilySearch, and Teodor matches the location from the document we have in Brazil.

Regarding contacting the genealogy responsible for that area, using the translation tools, I saw that we can text them, but the site shows me that I can't send an email, or maybe I'm doing something wrong? Do you know who I can contact to get information about those two people? Because in my mind If someone put their name on the website, it means someone must have some information, right? I know this is complicated, but any help would be appreciated.

Best regards, Felipe
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
Sławek_BinczakOffline
Temat postu: Re: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 25-03-2023 - 15:00
Zasłużony
Sympatyk


Dołączył: 19-10-2014
Posty: 70
Skąd: Czarna Łąka
Status: Offline
Hi, Felipe.
One of my Greatgrandmothers was Anna Kozłowska from Chyrów. She has brother Teodor born there in 1872 who dead in three months. Their father was also Teodor, but of course he was born much earlier.
I looked thru all available records (Family search, AGAD etc.)for Chyrów and didn't found another Teodor Kozłowski at this time and place.
So I repeat question asked by Elża: Where did Chyrów/Khyriv come from?

Sławek

_________________
Szukam aku zgonu Anny z Kozłowskich Bahrynowskiej. Lata 1904-1908. Podejrzewane miejscowości: Stryj, Skole, Lwów, Stary Sambor i okolice.
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość Odwiedź stronę autora MSN Messenger  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
Krystyna.wawOffline
Temat postu: Re: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 25-03-2023 - 15:19
Zasłużony
Sympatyk


Dołączył: 28-04-2016
Posty: 4210

Status: Offline
Officinalis_Paeonia napisał:
Where did Chyrów/Khyriv come from?

1. You didn't answer that question

2. Teodor Kozłowski from Chyrów was born in 1872 and died 3 months later
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.ph ... rdertable=

His parents were Teodor (died probably in 1892) and Katarzyna Baczyńska

_________________
Krystyna
*** Szarlip, Zakępscy, Kowszewicz, Broczkowscy - tych nazwisk szukam.
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość Wyślij email  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
felipekosloskeOffline
Temat postu: Re: Kozlowski Family Polish/Ukraine  PostWysłany: 25-03-2023 - 16:23


Dołączył: 15-03-2023
Posty: 3

Status: Offline
Sławek_Binczak napisał:
Hi, Felipe.
One of my Greatgrandmothers was Anna Kozłowska from Chyrów. She has brother Teodor born there in 1872 who dead in three months. Their father was also Teodor, but of course he was born much earlier.
I looked thru all available records (Family search, AGAD etc.)for Chyrów and didn't found another Teodor Kozłowski at this time and place.
So I repeat question asked by Elża: Where did Chyrów/Khyriv come from?

Sławek


Hello Sławek,

As I mentioned earlier, we came across the information about Chyrów/Khyriv a few weeks ago, but we only received the exact name with no additional details. Based on what I know, I don't think the Teodor you mentioned is the same person I am looking for. The Teodor I am searching for had seven siblings, and none of them had the name Anna. Additionally, the father's name of the Teodor I am referring to is Stanislaw, which is visible in the FamilySearch tree.
 
 Zobacz profil autora Wyślij prywatną wiadomość  
Odpowiedz z cytatem Powrót do góry
Wyświetl posty z ostatnich:     
Skocz do:  
Wszystkie czasy w strefie GMT - 12 Godzin
Napisz nowy temat   Odpowiedz do tematu
Zobacz poprzedni temat Wersja gotowa do druku Zaloguj się, by sprawdzić wiadomości Zobacz następny temat
Powered by PNphpBB2 © 2003-2006 The PNphpBB Group
Credits
donate.jpg
Serwis Polskiego Towarzystwa Genealogicznego zawiera forum genealogiczne i bazy danych przydatne dla genealogów © 2006-2024 Polskie Towarzystwo Genealogiczne
kontakt:
Strona wygenerowana w czasie 1.624177 sekund(y)