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Wysłany: 22-12-2018 - 19:06
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Thank you Krystyna. I already started looking for a birth record for Michał Nałkowski in Lublin around 1783-85 but now I think he is maybe not born in Lublin, because his father was living in Sukmanie (near Olszyny). Sukmanie is quite far away of Lublin, so I think I should search there. |
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Wysłany: 23-12-2018 - 09:41
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Why did you search Michał Naukowski birth record in Lublin? Look at my translation of his marriage above. He was born in Sukmanie parochia Olszyny. It's not very far. Believe me. |
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Wysłany: 23-12-2018 - 12:31
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That's a good question, Arek. There are already so many facts that I just forgot about it. Or maybe I didn't understand that "according the metrics of parochia Olszyny village Sukmanie" means he was born there. Now I understand.
What means not very far for you? Today according to google you need to travel 3,5 hours by car from Lublin to Sukmanie. In those times that would be a day I think. Or is there another Sukmanie and Olszyny that is closer to Lublin?
There is another question I have concerning Wacław Piotr Ludwik Nałkowski. You remember this famous person: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wac%C5%82aw_Na%C5%82kowski (wikipedia doesn't mention his third name Ludwik). Here is another website that mentions his third name: https://www.ogrodywspomnien.pl/index/showd/93581
It's known that he was born on 19.11.1851 in Nowodwór. At lubgens you can find him also with this birth date and place. But there is another record in 1865 in Lublin here (no. 172): https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1859/0/2.4/48/skan/full/a2i-Ok6GjJqdeljGrlRrOQ
First I thought that there is another son of the same parents with the same name. But then I read in that record the exact birth date and place of the person born in 1851. Why? What is that record from 1865 about? Was it only the baptism of Wacław Piotr Ludwik Nałkowski who was born in 1851? |
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Krystyna.waw |
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Wysłany: 23-12-2018 - 14:10
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Wolski_M92 napisał:
What is that record from 1865 about? Was it only the baptism of Wacław Piotr Ludwik Nałkowski who was born in 1851?
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_________________ Krystyna
*** Szarlip, Zakępscy, Kowszewicz, Broczkowscy - tych nazwisk szukam.
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Wysłany: 23-12-2018 - 14:39
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Very good. So one problem less. I wonder why he was baptised a second time. |
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Wysłany: 26-12-2018 - 18:08
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Has anyone a link to birth records of Kielce Katedra around 1800 (ca. 1797-1809)? I can only find birth records starting 1810 or until 1765.
Or if you have access to sources that are not in the internet: Can anyone tell me when Gustaw Grzegorz Wojciech Wolski was born? I suppose that it must be around 1801. And does anyone know the birth date and place of his wife Barbara Maryanna Kunegunda Mieszkowska? I suppose that her birth date is around 1807. They lived in Czarnów near Kielce at the beginning of the 19th century.
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I found a marriage record of Gustaw Wolski and Maryanna Mieszkowska here:
http://metryki.genbaza.pl/genbaza,detail,98601,46
They married in Małogoszcz in September 1827. It would be nice if someone could translate this to me, there are some important details that I don't understand. |
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Wolski_M92 |
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 12:32
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 13:02
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Place of domicile - Zajączków
Birth place - for me it is Jastrzębiec parochia Kargów |
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 13:29
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Thank you Arek. The place of domicile is logical. Zajączków must be the right place. Concerning the birth place "Jastrzębiec" parochia Kargów I'm not sure. In the marriage act they say that the village is in Powiat Opoczyński. But "Jastrzębiec" parochia Kargów is quite far away of that powiat, isn't it? |
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 14:09
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You said that Słownik Geofraficzny didn`t help you so I was trying to search another way. I forgot the first rule: Trust somebody but make control
Słownik is very useful - Jastrząb, page 499, powiat opoczyński, gmina Goździków par. Bieliny |
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 14:36
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They write in the Jastrzębiu it`s according grammatic rules
Some acts of Bieliny (Bieliny Opoczyńskie) you will find at genbaza and also some indexes at geneteka |
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Wolski_M92 |
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Wysłany: 28-12-2018 - 14:45
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Krystyna.waw |
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Wysłany: 29-12-2018 - 16:11
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