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Temat postu: Swiatowy, Marcin - Looking for any information  PostWysłany: 21-11-2024 - 21:14


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I'm looking for any information on my great great grandfather

What We have, but don't know if it's accurate

Name: Marcin Swiatowy

Birth: November 18th 1870

Marriage: to Michaelina Kaczmierczak 1890(also information on her would be great born July 16th 1874)

Left around 1893 to the United States

Died: March 20th 1910, in Buffalo NY, United States

We have a copy of the death certificate and looks like under father is the name: Franciszek

I do know the cemetery he is in, but the stone is un readable

He was killed when the wagon, and team of horses he was on hit a bridge abutment
 
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Temat postu: Swiatowy, Marcin - Looking for any information  PostWysłany: 21-11-2024 - 22:16
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Here is a marriage record of a
Marcin Światowy (born 5 October 1862 in Chwałkowice near Wrzesnia, to parents Franciszek and Józefa Florkowska)
to a Michalina Każmierczak (born 15 July 1869 in Jankowo, kreis Mogilno to parents Michał and Józefa Springer)
in the roman catholic parish of Barcin on 21 September 1890 – scanned image #33 https://www.genealogiawarchiwach.pl/#qu ... uery.query

also

line entry #9 on https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=4116415


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Temat postu:   PostWysłany: 21-11-2024 - 22:49
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Hello,

Welcome to genealodzy.pl. Please sign your posts with your name.

Please post the link to Marcin's death certificate. It should give the mother's name and, possibly, a more detailed place of birth. That info will help confirm that we are researching the correct person. Having said that:

The gravestone gives a different birth date (1865):
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/408 ... n-swiatowy

It appears you need to do a lot more digging on the US side before you move on to search in Europe:


He does appear in Buffalo City Directory in 1894:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=3754697

US Federal Census 1910 specifies his birthday: November 1862 in the Russian partition of Poland. This is alarming as the information in the marriage record below suggests that he comes from the Prussian partition (this needs to be investigated, possible that this is his wife's parish or that the census enumerator made a mistake, either way don't ignore this discrepancy). It also confirms the year of arrival - 1893:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1325221

In NY state census, but indexed incorrectly:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=3754697

Having all of this info, we can strongly suggest that the birth date given by you is incorrect.

Here is his marriage record confirming his birth date around 1862 (ignore the index, it's idiotic):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=4116415
that also gives you parents: Franciscus Swiatowy and Josepha Florkowska. Michalina's info is also included.

Now you have the parish.

I don't want to take away the joy of discovery away from you, so I'll stop at that. I do suggest you open a free account on FamilySearch - there is at least one well-researched tree there with info on your ancestors. Reach out to your public library and they will guide you through it, if needed.

Let us know if you need more help on the Polish side. Do look for his immigration documentation

Best,

Maja
 
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Temat postu:   PostWysłany: 22-11-2024 - 16:47


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I do believe the information is incorrect on the death certificate, as the dates don't line up, so I don't know how reliable that information is.

I went through photos last night and found one when the stone was legible
and it defiantly says 1865 on it. I was going by the death certificate originally but have seen these other dates

I'll check out some of the information, thank you

Here is the death certificate

https://imgur.com/a/Lo17LaX
 
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Temat postu:   PostWysłany: 23-11-2024 - 04:39
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Here is Marcin Swiatowy’s 5 October 1862 birth record from the village of Chwalkowice. Date and place of birth, as well parents’ names match what is in the 1890 marriage record. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=4116415
 
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